Vladimir Nabokov liked to say that. Paradoxical? Maybe not. Our conversation with Jim Barton fits in, even if he does work with a chainsaw. "It's the physics of energy. We personalize it, but it's pure mathematics." He adds, "if your work isn't moving toward the sacred, you better check your mind and heart." Artist Hadi Tabatabai fits in here, too, on both counts, but from the opposite end. You'll see what I mean. And great interview w/ Bob Woodsworth and Michael Levenston, founders of Cityfarmer in Vancouver 35 years ago. They were waaay ahead on this urban farming thing. And there are several more treats.